“US President Donald Trump on Wednesday delivered an incoherent primetime address in which he threatened to bomb Iran “back to the Stone Ages” while also claiming negotiations to end the conflict were ongoing, remarks that provided no clear indication of when or how the illegal war of choice would end.
“Trump’s speech marked his first major address on the war since the US, in partnership with Israel, started bombing Iran more than a month ago, without congressional approval and in violation of international law. A day after declaring that Iran “doesn’t have to make a deal” to end the war, Trump said during his Wednesday speech, “If there is no deal, we are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants very hard and probably simultaneously”—a grave war crime.
“Collin Rees, US campaign manager at the advocacy group Oil Change International, said in a statement that “Trump’s rambling lies can’t conceal how his reckless, illegal war of aggression is sending energy prices for working families through the roof.””



Trump promised genocide. Kamala said she’d do everything to stop genocide but wouldn’t stop selling weapons.
Americans chose the bigger genocide. The lesson from the last election is the politician that promotes the most death wins the election.
The lesson that the Democratic party should have learned is that “only a little bit of death and destruction” is not an effective counter-message to maximum death and destruction. Harm reduction is a good practice, but if that’s the only moral argument you can make in favor of your candidacy you’re going to lose and have only yourself to blame.
Kamala Harris tried to please everyone. She tried to please those who supported Israel by saying Israel has the right to defend itself. She tried to please those who wanted Israel to stop bombing in Gaza by saying Israel should be more careful with its bombing. Trump clearly stated he supported Israel and got the support of those who favored Israel. Those who didn’t support Israel chose not to support Harris because she didn’t commit to opposing Israel’s actions in Gaza. Harris disregarded one of Aesop’s Fables. See https://discover.hubpages.com/literature/The-man-the-boy-and-the-donkey-Aesops-fables-retold
Exactly. Try to please everyone, you’re not gonna please anyone.
Also, a woman of color unfortunately just means starting a step back.
But it fucking should be. I would also agree that no death and destruction is all that is acceptable. It’s really disheartening that that was not a realistic choice. But if you’re on the trolley heading towards total death and destruction and pulling the lever takes you to a little bit of death and destruction, you pull that fucking lever. You don’t take the “moral high ground” and tear down the Trump tracks while criticizing the other option for not being a good enough choice and take your passengers with you. It mystifies me that anyone on the left disagrees with that.
Perfect is the enemy of good. And good is the enemy of better. If you have no good choice, you pick the better choice. Period.
Too many people on Lemmy either aren’t on the trolley (Non-Americans) or they don’t realize they’re on that damn trolley with us. They’re the purity-testers who see their own left-purity as more important than the actual lives that could be not-dead while we try to pull a liberal to the left. Instead we get to collectively flail while fascists bomb Iran.
Yep, this.
I remember being in my early teens, where one is liable to apply purity tests everywhere one goes. Heck, we all do. But most of us tend to grow up.
Doing all this wishcasting about perfect leftist candidates that check all the buttons along with a perfect leftist electorate makes for great fantasy, I guess.
But then sitting back and declaring you are morally superior than everyone else when it doesn’t happen and you choose to sit out or vote for a ridiculous party like the Green Party is really not the flex these people think it is.
Are you phrasing this as an indictment of american politics and culture, or as a lesson dems should learn from going forward?
The moral of the story is leftist candidates are great but many leftist voters are too stupid to vote.