I saw a comment somewhere saying the title and had links but I lost the comment now. One of the links was going to raddle.me which is a Reddit like site

  • Korgen@lemmy.korgen.xyzEnglish
    25·
    1 year ago

    The political views of the main devs are controversial but it doesn’t really matter since Lemmy is free and open source. No one owns or runs it. Only lemmy.ml specifically is run by the devs.

      • Drew Got No Clue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        1 year ago

        I don’t understand this question. This is a public platform, there are no secret messages or info. What do you mean by privacy? Hide what from whom?

        • SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          Look at my other comment with the link. It’s saying that even if you delete your account the only thing that happens is that you can’t access it anymore but every comment and data is still in the database

          • Drew Got No Clue@lemmy.worldEnglish
            14·
            1 year ago

            What about The Internet Archive? Search engines cache? Copies made by other people? etc.

            This is a public platform; don’t share things you don’t want to be shared. You can’t truly expect anything being deleted forever everywhere.

            • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              11·
              1 year ago

              I mean, we can absolutely want that. And data farming is bad. Just objectively. Having a conversation in a public area irl isn’t consent to being recorded (not that it is always illegal to do so). And Why should it be on the internet? If the delete option doesn’t actually delete anything, it should clearly reflect that. I have no idea why you would argue against user control of their data.

                • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  But we can, its the internet. Why shouldn’t we be able to delete things? I’m not a ceo, I’m not a politician. The world has no vested interest in preserving a post i make. I should have control of my data. I seriously cannot fathom how anyone could possibly argue otherwise. I’m an ordinary civilian, and my data should belong to me and I should be able to have it deleted if I so choose. Note that every single massive social media platform essentially by law has to provide you means to do this. Lemmy should not be exempt from this. Whats the point of leaving reddit to join another platform that doesn’t respect its user base? It’s nonsense.

                  And I never said it was illegal (I specified the opposite actually), but its obviously wrong to walk up to 2 people sitting on a park bench having a quiet conversation between the two of them and record it without even asking them.

            • samick1@lemmy.mlEnglish
              3·
              1 year ago

              Some companies have to enforce retention policies for business and/or legal reasons, which means they actually have to delete your data if they say they will.

              Some sites only “soft” delete things because it’s simply easier and cheaper.

              Regardless, I can’t reiterate what you said enough:

              It’s why they say everything is permanent on the internet.

              Nobody should ever once in their life assume that data they post online will be discarded, ever. Maybe it will, but never assume it will. Even if you run the server yourself and delete the data files on your server and send the hard disks into the sun, if the data was ever accessed, you should treat it as if it’s been captured and retained somewhere.

          • nobug-404@geddit.socialEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            If you don’t want it there don’t post it. The internet is scraped and copied and backed up. You can ask for it to be deleted but the company likely doesn’t own every copy.

          • LemmyAtem@beehaw.orgEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Okay but you’re commenting on a public forum, and didn’t give anyone your name or any other PII when you signed up? Why are you worried about not being able to delete the things you’re posting anonymously anyway?

            • SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              I never said I was worried. It’s just the general idea when actual companies usually have a data deletion policy in place. Having a data retention policy in place is usually a good look

      • derived_allegory@beehaw.orgEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        According to the current readme: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy#features you will be able to delete all your post with account deletion. This also align with the warning text before deleting your account.

        Also most instance are hosted by community members, and are community funded. I think most instance don’t have the interest, or even the means to sell your data.

        However, by the nature of OSS, everyone can modify the code when they start a instance. So theoretically, the admins can track you. Also by nature of the federation, your data will also be present on other instances that is federated with yours, but what they got should mostly be public informations (namely information of your post). And they don’t necessarily need to delete that info after you deleted your account.

        That being said, the privacy aspect of these small community-funded federated service should be order of magnitude better than most other social media site, where their entire business is to spy on you and sell your data.

      • CheshireSnake@lemmy.oneEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Let’s put it this way:

        Spez, reddit’s ceo, used to mod r/jailbait. Did it matter to the users? It didn’t. Why should this be any different?

        Also, this is a public platform as much as reddit is. Reddit’s TOS is horrible and yet people stayed. Lemmy is not worse than reddit in terms of privacy. I had to use a script/program before deleting my reddit accounts because reddit won’t delete what’s in there.

  • closure1170@beehaw.orgEnglish
    21·
    1 year ago

    I haven’t seen that accusation. There are some communists but no Nazis that I’ve seen. And I’ll take a communist over a Nazi 200% of the time.

  • NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.orgEnglish
    12·
    1 year ago

    Another conservation I had recently said that lemmygrad is apparently run by communists and harbor tankies. If I had to venture a guess, whoever wrote what you saw doesn’t understand the difference between nazis and communists, and that’s where it’s coming from. Or maybe there’s also a nazi instance here somewhere, but as long as you’re not part of their instance or an instance that federated with them, you won’t see any of that shit

  • Drew Got No Clue@lemmy.worldEnglish
    91·
    1 year ago

    See one of the two devs’ essays here for his political views: https://github.com/dessalines/essays

    Having said that, you’re free to join a different instance (like the one I’m commenting from), if you have issues with that. I haven’t personally noticed anything actually problematic though.

    Edit: quick answer -> definitely not neo-nazis, and probably not relevant either

  • bitrate@lemmy.worldEnglish
    51·
    1 year ago

    As others have said, so what? It’s decentralized platform. If you don’t want to interact with them, then don’t. Nobody runs lemmy. It’s a collection of instances communicating with each other. That is the beauty of it.