• Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Another one nobody really talks about is the whole “UFO coverup conspiracy” which isn’t a conspiracy to cover up UFOs, but to hide military operations:

    The classic case, well-known to conspiracy aficionados, is Paul Bennewitz, a successful electronics entrepreneur in New Mexico. In 1979, Bennewitz started seeing strange lights in the sky, and picking up weird transmissions on his amateur equipment. The fact that he lived just across the road from Kirtland air force base should have set alarm bells ringing, but Bennewitz was convinced these phenomena were of extraterrestrial origin. Being a good patriot, he contacted the Air Force, who realised that, far from eavesdropping on ET, Bennewitz was inadvertently eavesdropping on them.
    Instead of making him stop, though, Doty and other officers told Bennewitz they were interested in his findings. That encouraged Bennewitz to dig deeper. Within a few years, he was interpreting alien languages, spotting crashed alien craft in the hills from his plane (he was an amateur pilot), and sounding the alert for a full-scale invasion. All the time, the investigators were surveilling him surveilling them. They gave Bennewitz computer software that “interpreted” the signals, and even dumped fake props for him to discover. The mania took over Bennewitz’s life. In 1988, his family checked him into a psychiatric facility.

    Paul Bennewitz died in that facility, still paranoid. Our government broke that man, a veteran, with a conspiracy.

    It makes it hard for me to enjoy the X Files knowing all the suffering caused by its origin.

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      11 months ago

      in defense of air force, this was pretty funny

      (and also rather simple and self-sustaining way of diverting attention away from then top-secret projects that resulted in wonders of engineering like B-2 or F-117)

      • They definitely gaslit the dude, for the greater good of America, I suppose; I’m sure one could make the case that the success and therefore the secrecy of America’s stealth and space programs were essential to bringing about the present world order, in which America is the lone superpower, for better or worse.

        I think there are real cases in which various visual, optical, radio, or computer phenomena, have been misinterpreted by observers in good faith, who have reconciled what they could not explain with fantasies.

        Or do you mean that, despite official statements to the contrary and lack of available evidence, in fact actual extraterrestrials have traveled to the earth and their presence verified and knowledge held in secret from the general public?

          • “I don’t believe for a minute that it was any kind of alien structure; I think there is a fairly strong earthly explanation for what occurred,” says Leo Grenier, director of the National Weather Service in Muskegon. …

            Grenier of the National Weather Service believes the Federal Aviation Administration knows what happened that night but isn’t saying.

            “If any aircraft are within a given area, then the FAA has to know what’s going on in that area. But most of the time, they won’t acknowledge anything, not even to us,” he says.

            “I think I know what it was, but I’m not going to tell you. Once I retire from the National Weather Service, I might tell somebody.”

            Any more about what this guy thinks it was in Michigan?

            First time I saw the tic tac video, it looked to me like glare that I’ve seen before on a PTZ camera inside a clear dome aka a speed dome camera, and I found credible the many who say that’s exactly what it is just from reflected infrared light. The voices, which I later learned are fake, are what made me think “nah, it couldn’t be an artifact, the pilots would recognize it.”

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                11 months ago

                Found one more quote from Grenier:

                “Leo Grenier, director of Muskegon’s National Weather Service office, says he knows what happened – but he won’t tell. “There wasn’t any UFO,” Grenier said. “There’s an earthly explanation but I’m not going to talk about it.” The reason, Grenier said, is national security. “I was in the Navy for 20 years. I know a lot of Navy operations and a good bit (about) Navy equipment. I checked with some retired electronic technicians I know, and they confirmed what I thought.”

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                    11 months ago

                    I’m not doubting what you saw. I’m just wondering what that Grenier guy thinks you saw. He seems to say he has a good idea of what it is. He could be a total nutter but I’d still like to know what he thinks. Hasn’t some podcaster tracked him down?

                    And are there any photos? I couldn’t seem to find any.