• redtea@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    ‘Developed’ by capitalist standards. They all stopped and went backwards from about the 1970s. Since then, they started measuring growth by counting nothing as something or counting some things twice. Not to mention that capitalism is crisis.

    Liberal/welfare democracies didn’t stop growing because there was no room to grow. They stopped growing because the workers stopped organising and demanding infrastructure and housing, etc. They could’ve kept on growing by developing rural areas, hospitals, schools, public transport, etc. Instead, they decided to tarmac over everything and let all the bridges fall into the water.

    Communists will blow right past those concepts of development and growth. Already, China is living in a different century. We’re going to need a concept of ‘post-development’ to make sense of what comes next (where we will likely see development without the capitalist notion of infinite growth).

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      8 months ago

      We’re going to need a concept of ‘post-development’ to make sense of what comes next

      I think that wouldn’t be needed for a long time yet, there is still a lot of room for even current development in China, later would come improvement, modernisation and developing other countries etc. I don’t think, barring some worldwide catastrophe, that development will ever reach the levels of what libs always claim about socialism, stagnation. Or even what utopian socialists say about just stopping.

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      8 months ago

      Liberal/welfare democracies didn’t stop growing because there was no room to grow.

      Gotta partially disagree with you on this one. After WWII, imperialists got a free pass to expand throughout most of the world. All the way up through the fall of the USSR, the US was privatizing and gutting the public sectors of their client states and the eastern block.

      However, with the neoliberal consensus overtaking most of the world, the US didn’t have any more big markets to crack open, which is why they had to turn their sights on gutting their own public sectors which they had free access to. Foucault’s boomerang and such