• mlg@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Yeah but it’s funnier when it’s against an American corporate behemoth that already has a poor safety record from even before Airbus became a thing.

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        8 months ago

        Wiki says Airbus was founded in 1970. You think Boeing has had a bad safety record for 55+ years?

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          8 months ago

          Airbus has only really been in competition with Boeing since the 2000s. Boeing’s merger with Mcdonell Douglas was in 1997 and that is when corporate culture shifted hard away from quality and to machinists, mechanics, engineers, everyone being told to think “how can I increase stock value today”.

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            8 months ago

            Yes, but that’s still quite different from what was said. I was only pointing out the ridiculousness of the claim. A lot of Boeing’s current problems point back to that merger.

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      This is exactly it. I’m not making excuses for these companies messing up and being negligent I think it’s fine they get a spotlight on these things. However it’s just like the railroad derailings that were hot recently. After it was news we were seeing huge headlines of derailings like every single day and not anymore. I have family members as engineers in the railroad and I know that there’s derailings literally all the time but it was only reported so much because it was the new hot topic for a while. Again not defending the railroads in the cases where huge disasters were also caused due to negligence fuck them for that too

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      It’s a thing until it becomes so frequent that it’s just background noise, which is what happened with car crashes. I took specific action to make my next big trip safer, and from everything I could find the most effective way to do that was trading out the drive to the airport for a bus ride.

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        8 months ago

        It’s always been that frequent…

        The 737-MAX issues are very high profile and represent an extremely bad issue at Boeing’s core.

        But these issues are nothing like that. They’re constant background issues that you were ignoring before now, you’ll just go back to ignoring them.

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          7 months ago

          This is a maintenance issue with the airline, not a manufacturing issue. Big difference. A mechanic doing routine maintaine probably forgot to latch the cowling.

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            7 months ago

            Definitely - that’s why I’m saying this has always been a constant background level of fuckups.

            Airplanes are so scrutinized and safe that this level of casual negligence rarely causes issues.

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      8 months ago

      While frequency illusion is a real thing, so is the negligence exhibited by capitalists when they need to report growth quarter after quarter at any cost.

      I’ll continue to be primed to see this shit because it’s only going to get worse and worse.

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        The Boeing merger with Douglas was the end of any “good” corporate culture. Everything for the bottom line - security be damned.

        It’s the classic short sighted capitalist maximizing of the now at the cost of the future.