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“If Ukraine promotes Bandera in its historical policy, it will alienate Europe, which has an unequivocal opinion about Nazi collaborators”
Does it really
europeans only disliked nazis because they killed europeans
if nazis didn’t destroy europe in a war they’d be celebrated as heroes (look at how much europeans worship america)
Europeans loved the Nazis, they only “dislike” them now that their new fascist daddy USA has taken over.
Nazi collaboration was the norm across all of Western Europe. Of course, if all you had to go by were the word of Europeans you’d find that the number of resistance members seemed to be triple the population of Europe.
Honestly i think the
only has a negative view of bandera because he killed polish people, if the OUN only killed jews and russians they wouldnt care muchLike with Baltic fascists.
i’ve unironically seen a more moderate NAFO mf be convinced that bandera was bad because a polish person was angry at him being glorified because of his killing of poles, but they didnt care about the antisemitic pogroms and killing communists and russians
The opinion:
unequivocally positive
lol yeah, seems like that’s precisely the direction the rest of Europe is heading in as well
Jerry Heil
The punchlines write themselves, don’t they?
bro who let Jimmy Hitler into the venue
After registering for the Russian social media service VKontakte, she used the name Jerry Mouse, referencing the cartoon character of the same name. She then changed Mouse to Heil, claiming she went to a site with American surnames and chose the one she liked the most.
hmm
There’s an outside possibility that her stage name being effectively “Heil Nazi Germany” is a coincidence as she claims.
But her decision to keep that name despite it’s meaning, (which she is clearly aware of as she feels the need to justify it), her popularity in Ukraine despite keeping that name, the Ukrainian state’s decision to send her as their representative to EuroVision and to dress her in an outfit winking coyly at their Nazi national hero, that is a lot of outside possibilities all at once.
I feel the same way about it that I did about the Finnish air force keeping the swastika post WWII. After the passage of enough time, it stops being an ‘accident’
If I were into drag performance there’s a 100% chance that I would create a parody character of her and perform a comedic piece based on her song under the character name Stashynsky Squirter and then upload the recording of the performance to social media and tag her in it.
Of course I’d also tell her that Stashynsky seemed like pretty common Ukrainian surname and that I’m only winking at the camera because I have an eyelash caught in my eye.
I can’t think of a single person, American or otherwise, I’ve known with that surname. And from what I know of Americans, they’d change it if that were their name.
Found a lathe operator in Ohio with the name Jerry Heil on LinkedIn
I stand corrected.
Remember when Eurovision handed the win to Ukraine, just because of the invasion? And then libs came out of the woodwork to claim that it had nothing to do the war at all, sweaty?!
Ukrainian nationalist dont use a symbol from a known nazi collaborator challenge. Level: impossible
JERRY HEIL
Jerry Heil
It’s worse than you might think. Jerry was what Allied soldiers called German soldiers and Nazi Germany in general during World War II.
Idk if you’re being /s as Civility, but Jerry is a lesser offense, compared to Heil…
Tis bad optics, Civility…
For sure. If her stage name was Jane or Joey Heil that would still set the dogs barking while say, Jerry Henderson wouldn’t.
But taken together I do think her whole stage name being “Heil Nazi Soldier” instead of simply “firstname Heil” is worse (and less plausibly deniable), and helps explain why she might have chosen that otherwise innocuous firstname.
Aye I see… Jerry doesn’t help much…
Aside from Bandera, Balenciaga is a cooked reference in and of itself and I’m not talking about the wayfair-tier child pornography/Devilry “scandal” the fashion company had a year or two ago. Cristóbal Balenciaga tailored clothes for the Spanish royal family and, after the civil war, the Franco family. His studio in Paris was one of the few allowed to continue operations during Nazi occupation.
In marginally more positive Eurovision news, Israel got booed at rehearsal.
