Talking about you mr phil.

  • @LemmyLaLibre@feddit.chOP
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    What was the moment you realized mr phil was a quack? For me it was when he had a man on the show who hit back after his wife assaulted him, and phil threatened to have the man arrested on stage if he got up and left while he was being humiliated and berated with things like: “there’s no reason to ever hit a woman, not even if she has a knife” and “you’re a coward” and “you’re scum”.

    That man was a victim of long term domestic violence and snapped, but instead of helping him phil exploited him in his moment of weakness.

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        Anyone who ran these shows ever is an ass. Talk shows were basically the precursor to annoying YouTubers today

    • That’s some dumbass sexist bullshit which was/is wrong on so many levels. First, it degrades women by equating them all with “delicate flowers” who are supposedly incapable of doing any damage. Second, it implies that domestic violence is acceptable, or at least not as serious, if a woman is the abuser and that a man, supposing the victim is a man, should not be allowed to defend himself. For normal people, not to mention someone who sells himself as a sort of therapist, that’s some fucked up logic.

      As a general rule, nobody should be hitting anyone else. Gender is irrelevant. If someone is assaulting you, and you are unable to get away, then you should absolutely fight back until your attacker stops attacking you. Once again, gender is irrelevant. The fact that “Dr.” Phil’s tiny little brain can’t comprehend that is simply mind boggling.

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        As a general rule, nobody should be hitting anyone else.

        Yes

        Gender is irrelevant.

        Well yes and no. Gender is a social construct. You probably mean “(biological) sex,” which is very relevant.

    • @NekoRogue@slrpnk.net
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      For me, it was when he had a woman on his show who had gained a significant amount of weight, after being sexually assaulted multiple times, in order to appear more unattractive to men. Dr. Phil told her to lose weight, and to stop “letting men use your body as a playground.”

    • @Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world
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      While I agree with you he is scum of the earth, he does hold a doctorate, meaning he can call himself doctor.

      Exposing people for what they are is most effective if there is nothing in your story that people can use as “See? You’re wrong about this one thing so you must be wrong about everything”.

      He is scum and exploits people, and I wish he would just go away.

        • hoodatninja
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          1211 months ago

          He actually hasn’t had a license for decades so he’s not qualified either lol

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              It’s right there on his Wikipedia but ok. Admittedly it’s 17 years give or take so yeah technically not decades plural.

              • @CorruptBuddha@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                Either you’re misinformed or just straight up lying.

                For most of his career, Peterson maintained a clinical practice, seeing about 20 people a week. He has been active on social media, and in September 2016 he released a series of videos in which he criticized Bill C-16.[22][53][54] As a result of new projects, he decided to put the clinical practice on hold in 2017[55] and temporarily stopped teaching as of 2018.[19][17] In February 2018, Peterson entered into a promise with the College of Psychologists of Ontario after a professional misconduct complaint about his communication and the boundaries he sets with his patients. The college did not consider a full disciplinary hearing necessary and accepted Peterson entering into a three-month undertaking to work on prioritizing his practice and improving his patient communications. Peterson had no prior disciplinary punishments or restrictions on his clinical practice.[56][57] In 2023, the college ordered Peterson to undergo social media communication coaching, following concerns about his public comments.[58][59] Peterson denied any wrongdoing and filed for judicial review.[60][58]

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

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                  11 months ago

                  I am talking about Dr. Phil. I understand why that wasn’t clear but let’s maybe slow your roll a bit here.

                  Peterson is just a bad person lol

      • @Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world
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        I mean, i have a doctorate, but like Phil, I can absolutely not practice psychology. (In my case it’s because the doctorate is in Chemistry, not because I’m a quack and/or unethical scumbag)

        • @Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world
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          911 months ago

          Can you give me a source for that? I want to believe you but as far as I could find he does have a doctorate, and was a practicing therapist until 2006.

          • Apathy Tree
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            Yuck, can you imagine having him as your therapist?

            I’ve seen some bad therapists over the years, but nobody would hold a candle to this shitbag.

    • @Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml
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      And you know Frauter Phil has hit a woman or two in your day.

      Someone that so far up their own ass and full of arrogance? Theres no way he hasnt hit a woman, and under far less justifiable causes than self defense during domestic abuse.

  • @saegiru@lemmy.world
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    I always find it weird when people repost this acting as if Dr. Phil wouldn’t have been in on the whole situation. It’s not like the show was aired live, or that the guy wouldn’t have had to been approved to go out on stage dressed like that by likely at least a dozen people, and Phil would definitely have been told in advance. So the guy was allowed to do it by Phil and the staff, and then the episode was edited and allowed to air, all for ratings.

    • @jackpot@lemmy.ml
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      3711 months ago

      could also be angry staffers like what happened to james cordon when he couldnt even name a camera man after being asked (or maybe that was live idk but his staffers wrote the question). maybe too many witnesses saw it and not airing it would look shit or the network demanded an episode

    • @Novman
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      1211 months ago

      Television is a big show. News too.

      • @Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml
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        1111 months ago

        Need to get the fairness doctrine back in place and start forcibly putting some integrity back in TV journalism.

  • ArugulaZ
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    4711 months ago

    I’ve gotta admit, that guy coming on the show with a Dr. Phil haircut is pretty hilarious. Take that, Thick Drawl McGraw!

    I’m glad both Dr. Fool and that other guy who pushes super fruits and looks like Sinestro both lost their shows. Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving couple of tools.

      • @Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml
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        411 months ago

        I’unno, last I heard he’s failed everything hes tried. Threw away fame and fortune as a doctor, to be a piece of shit bigot supporting asshole that sells pseudoscience cancer exploitation products.

    • Ghostalmedia
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      2111 months ago

      Yeah, he stopped renewing his license in 2006. He could’ve probably kept it. I know some non practicing doctors that still keep their license renewed.

  • @theneverfox@pawb.social
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    But if you do that, even if you see few or no patients, you have to get malpractice insurance

    It has something called a tail clause, so once you retire from medicine you’re covered from any former patients - if you keep your license, you have to keep paying

  • @Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
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    The likelihood that he didn’t know he was going to do this, even if perhaps it was a surprise on the day, seems pretty low. He allowed him to do it. I really don’t believe the guy showed up dressed ina Dr Phil costume, presumably hours before taping, and was able to sit around in the green room and go past all the producers and make it on set if this was going to be a real problem for them. Doubtless if they didn’t contrive the entire thing themselves then they likely saw it as a gift.

    If I recall Dr Phil refused to interview him, and made a big show of kicking him off the set. On the face of it this makes him look bad and seems to prove the guy’s point. I guess he either thought he’d still appear high and mighty by refusing to indulge him, (yet suspiciously waiting until he’s literally on stage to do it) despite the apparent statement it made. Or maybe they figured it would just make such good ratings that it really didn’t matter if you allowed him to make a negative commentary about Dr Phil that probably goes over most of the audience’s head because the visuals alone would draw people in and could be milked for the program trailers.

  • @Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world
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    While I agree with you he is scum of the earth, he does hold a doctorate, meaning he can call himself doctor.

    Exposing people for what they are is most effective if there is nothing in your story that people can use as “See? You’re wrong about this one thing so you must be wrong about everything”.

    He is scum and exploits people, and I wish he would just go away.

    • @ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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      He can call himself “doctor” but he can’t practice because the regulatory authorities took away his licence to practice specifically because his show breaks so many of their rules. Even Dr. Oz never got his licence pulled.

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      Only scumbags who aren’t medical vet or other real doctors use the title Dr for themselves

      Its a cnut move for a cnut guy

  • @BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world
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    It’s not exactly “the same thing” though. One encourages direct violence. Dr. Phil presumably does not. One component of exploitation being comparable is not the same as totally equal.

      • Saik0
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        Sending a kid to a ranch, or rehab facility, or “camps” isn’t direct violence. If I send my kids to summer camp, I’m not punching them in the face. There is a difference… and the fact that you can’t identify that and 4 other people upvoted you speaks about our current societies problems.

        • @chuckleslord@lemmy.world
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          Oh, I’m sorry. I didn’t realize that kids who are struggling to find where they fit in the world and have a family network that isn’t helping them with that struggle deserve to go to a cult indoctrination camp to be tortured. I guess physical and psychological torture doesn’t count as direct violence either. Cool, cool cool cool

        • @homura1650@lemmy.world
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          But if you direct people to forcibly take a kid to a camp that uses face punching as a “therapeutic” treatment, while endorsing said camp with your national platform…

          Technically that might not be “direct” violence, but it is pretty direct indirect violence.

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          You should read up on Turn-About Ranch, where he sent teens. There was direct violence, they’re facing multiple allegations of sexual, physical and mental abuse by former attendees.

        • @Nowyn@sopuli.xyz
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          I think you are not aware how troubled teen industry is run at least in the US. Just so you are aware that they are places full of physical, sexual and mental abuse. It is like you sent your kids to a camp but instead of summer camp, it was a refugee or concentration camp.