• fluxion@lemmy.worldEnglish
    83·
    6 months ago

    Nah fuck this army I’m gonna go recruit some immortal ghost soldiers instead. Do whatever you want with these I’m out.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
      345·
      6 months ago

      That… That right there made me hate the entire trilogy… So we’re slowly overwhelmed, we’re slowly losing and being killed and the situation is so dire and… Oh there is the immortal deux ex machina guys just trampling over the enemy killing them all in a minute aaaaand we’re done!

      It was so anti climactic

      • CluckN@lemmy.worldEnglish
        415·
        6 months ago

        Agreed, I had the same thoughts with Oppenheimer. They just invent a big scary bomb and that ends the war? What an anti-climatic ending.

        • Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.worldEnglish
          101·
          6 months ago

          Kinda like the war. Island hoping through the Pacific theater for ages, then they just drop two extre spicy bombs and the whole deal is done

        • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.worldEnglish
          33·
          6 months ago

          It would be more like, they invented the atomic bomb, use it to take Iwo Jima and then the United States goes back to sulking and wondering how the hell they’re going to take the home islands.

          In lotr they use the undead to win the battle of pellenor fields but they don’t use it to win the war. It’s a legitimate plot hole.

            • verity_kindle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              6 months ago

              The army of the dead would turn around on Aragorn and his remaining guys and consume them or something. The oath breaker king ( in book) is like “release us”, but the context shows us he means “release us OR…” they’re just barely under Aragorn’s control. They’re not a weapon to be put away and then used again later, not even against Sauron. They’re poisoned and corrupt beyond redemption. All Aragorn can do, after they keep their oath to him, is give them permission to evaporate into the void. EDIT: I just flipped through ROTK and can’t find a scene where Aragorn dismisses them. They never speak to him, he orders them verbally to follow him to the Stone of Erech. I mixed up the book and movie, it seems.

            • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              6 months ago

              Yeah, I know that’s how it’s explained, but… why though? Why would fighting in one battle fulfill their oaths? Presumably, Isuldur wanted them to fight for the whole war, that’s how conscription usually works. So I don’t see why one battle would do it, especially since as undead they have nothing to lose.

      • greenskye@lemm.eeEnglish
        26·
        6 months ago

        To be fair the entire army itself was just a distraction so that frodo could destroy the ring. The ghosts weren’t what caused them to win, they just prevented the death of the bait.

        • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.worldEnglish
          84·
          6 months ago

          Right but, why bother with smoke and mirrors when you have an immortal unbeatable army in the first place.

          Even in the book its not really explained why the oathbreakers only help out for one fight; the only difference is in the books they never actually go to Minas Tirith they just help against the corsairs.

          • greenskye@lemm.eeEnglish
            15·
            6 months ago

            Presumably Sauron could’ve destroyed the ghosts, he was just a little distracted at that time frame, or not yet able or willing to face them directly. Like the Eagles, they can’t really tackle the Sauron problem, so aren’t as much of a solve as they appear.

            Also the reason they only fight in the final battle I think is because that is the only battle they’re bound to fight in, I’m not even sure you could use them to fight any other battle than against Sauron’s armies.

        • Seleni@lemmy.worldEnglish
          8·
          6 months ago

          Basically, yes.

          In the books it was just that they would only answer to Isldur’s Heir. They also scared the Corsairs of Umbar away from their ships, but it was an army of Dunadain (along with a few elves, like Elrond’s sons) that actually ran them off permanently, so they could use the ships to bring some of the Gondorians in the south back north to join the main battle.

  • Toribor@corndog.socialEnglish
    65·
    6 months ago

    Give each guy two spears. Now you have twice the spears and you didn’t even have to find more guys.

    Contact me for more tips on defeating dark lords.

    • Tryptaminev@lemm.eeEnglish
      21·
      6 months ago

      Why though? I don’t think that Rohans problem was lack of proper swords. Giving it to a boy maybe 12-14 years old, because there is not enough men of fighting age was the problem at the time. But i don’t think the Orcs would have made concessions bc. of that.

  • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    41·
    6 months ago

    I mean…the only way you could get more spears in less time is if you made some kind of pact with an army of undead!

  • frezik@midwest.socialEnglish
    31·
    6 months ago

    Théoden: “What do you expect of me? Run down to some cave and conjure up an undead army?”

    Aragorn: brb

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.socialEnglish
      8·
      6 months ago

      The Rohirrim were spread out dealing with raiding parties until after Helm’s Deep. Contextually we’re to understand that about half their available manpower is either dealing with other problems or just didn’t answer the muster.

  • DukeAtraedes@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    11·
    6 months ago

    Hey, you know another thing like this post comes to a new light, knowing that aragorn is OLDER than the king

  • LordCrom@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    6 months ago

    He’s a badass. When your battlecry is “DEATH!” You know some shits about to happen .