NOAA also collects and analyzes key climate data

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    It’s never clear whether they’re more corrupt or more stupid. But they’re determined to bury their heads in the sand over the most important issue ever to face humanity, and dismantle the resources the USA has to mitigate the disaster. Corrupt and stupid and delusional.

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      Fuck climate change, NOAA provides hurricane and heat warnings. They’re what most weather providers use as the basis for telling people if you should grab an umbrella on your way out the door

      Starting a culture war with the weather is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard of. What’s your end game? Weatherman Alex Jones telling Floridians to go to the beach because the hurricane is just going to glide by safely and bring a nice cool breeze to the shore to keep you comfy?

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        I’ve already seen yapping heads on sticks claiming that extreme heat warnings are fake-- for example, Neil Oliver. But he also says vaccines cause cancer, so he can fuck right off.

        And if they ignore hurricane warnings to own the libs, what can you do but shrug your shoulders?

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        Climate change affects everybody numbnuts. It’s not culture war to want a habitable and healthy planet. If that’s what you think, you should talk to more scientists, and watch less tv.

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        The older I get, the more I buck prior societal trends and lean socialist.

        Capitalism is a benefit only to the Parasite Class. It’s an absolute scam for everyone else.

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    This is the typical Republican playbook. Privatize, their friends take control, and then they get the government to pay their cronies huge sums of money for the services the government used to provide for itself for a fraction of the cost. It’s what they are trying to do with school vouchers too.

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      don’t forget private prisons. after they’re done with all that, get ready to pay for your fire and police department subscriptions

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        Plutarch (Plut. Crass. 2.3-4) states that Marcus Crassus, one of the members of the ‘First Triumvirate’5, owed a good portion of his wealth to “fire and war”. In order to make the most out of the frequent destruction of houses by fire, Crassus bought over five hundred slaves, all of whom were architects and builders. He then proceeded to find homeowners whose houses had burnt down (or, in some cases, were still burning!) and negotiate the purchase of their property, after which he would reconstruct the buildings and sell them on at a price; the very literal sense of a real estate ‘fire sale’!

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      Except that private weather companies use freely available government data and “enrich” it for the public for a fee.

      Which is, imo, even more on brand with Republicans.

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    That sounds like something I would put on my plan to undermine and cripple a country if you ask me. Did an enemy of America write Project 2025?

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      Don’t worry, they’re also doing that by taking down storm sirens and replacing them with mobile alerts because basic maintenance is too much to ask. They just assume everyone has access to a phone at all times and that said phone is charged and capable of receiving the alert. Y’know, because the young and elderly don’t deserve to be warned of an incoming tornado!

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        Hold on. Let me tell you. Sirens in Tennessee are the most bass ackward thing already.

        Instead of having a siren sound going off while there is danger in the area… the siren going off is just the NOAA voice reading the alert like you hear on the radio! Big ass “siren” goes, “The National Weather Service has issued a tornado warning for (list of counties). At 7:55PM, Central Daylight Time, a storm capable of producing a tornado was located-”

        After it reads off this useless info, what does it do? It shuts off. It stops making noise.

        How are you supposed to hear it over the rain and thunder? How are you supposed to know when the danger is passed?

        If it worked like it does in Oklahoma I would defend it but this is a travesty.

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          That’s certainly not normal. I’ve seen numerous recordings of voice-capable sirens from TN and I’ve never seen one broadcast any EAS messages. Usually there’s pre-recorded messages like “Tornado warning. This is a tornado warning. Residents should immediately take cover.” stored on the controller which is used for such cases. For the siren to be doing what you’re describing means something is seriously wrong with your sirens. Probably an incompetent EMA manager.

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            I obviously refuse to tell you what specific part of Tennessee I’m in but I’ll try to find someone to email about it.

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              Definitely get in contact woth with your local EMA. With storms only getting worse and more frequent it’s pretty urgent.

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      I’m just going to call my friends who live to the west every 10 minutes and ask if there’s a tornado there. If they don’t answer I’ll just assume there is one and go hide. Problem solved.

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    They still mad that they didn’t change their hurricane report when Trump redrew it with a Sharpie.

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    Basically do what you did to healthcare to the entire country

    The US will next year be a third world banana Republic dictatorship

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        No, exactly like that. The US has lots of useful exports, and as with banana Republics, almost all the money goes to a very limited set of rich and powerful

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      Actually it’s just because there’s rich people who are profiting off of weather reporting apps. NOAA is actually banned from advertising their reports. And they still have a sizeable portion of the market because it’s just straight up a better service. So the next big windfall is to kill the government’s public reports altogether and make the private apps the only place you can find them.

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          Oh yeah that’s 100 percent part of it. But the push over the line for modern mainstream conservatives is watching the government do something the private sector could profit from. That’s literally the line they’ve said they wanted between public and private sector ever since I was old enough to pay attention to politics in the 90’s. The climate change thing is why the radicals care and why it’s a run at the entirety of NOAA instead of just the NWS.

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    It further notes that scientific agencies such as NOAA are “vulnerable to obstructionism of an Administration’s aims,” so appointees should be screened to ensure that their views are “wholly in sync” with the president’s.

    do we want flood-risk predictions sponsored by a flood-insurance company, or heat advisories from an air-conditioning conglomerate?

    The agency is home to one of the most significant repositories of climate data on Earth, which includes information on shifting atmospheric conditions and the health of coastal fisheries, plus hundreds of thousands of years’ worth of ice-core and tree-ring data.

    Eliminating or privatizing climate information won’t eliminate the effects of climate change. It will only make them more deadly.

    It sounds like the counter to this is to point out to voters that they don’t really want to pay more for fish because fishermen can’t get data, and we don’t want planes to be even less reliable AND cost more because the government stops tracking upper level wind speeds, and that, generally, we want people who get a salary for doing accurate work rather than people who get paid to say whatever the bossman want to hear. Ask them to imagine how it would work if Google, NBC, Amazon, and Fox each sunk the money for trying to replicate the existing infrastructure and then sold pieces of it to paying customers – such as Allstate, CBS, and Delta Airlines. Everyone else would have to HOPE they were getting complete data and have to wonder what was missing. Noticing record highs and lows would become proprietary and forbidden from broadcast in a way akin to being disallowed from referencing “The Superbowl” unless you pay for a license. How’s any of that going to work?

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    That’s how we solve the homeless crisis and the unemployment?..

    So are there any hurricanes coming this month? Dunno. Oh well!

    Hurricane comes and erases let’s say 10% of Texas and Florida. Then we just ship the homeless there to rebuild, and live permanently until another hurricane 🌀.

    Yeah great idea! And imagine the economical impact if everyone was employed!

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    I just got a weather alert for severe storms. If they get rid of NOAA does that mean that I’ve just got to hope for the best at all times?