As a 40 year old voter I can say things have changed. Gay people can get married. They couldn’t when I was younger. I was about to lose my healthcare at work during Bush but it hasn’t been a concern since.
Also activists spent decades making huge sacrifices fighting for LGBTQ rights only for homophobic Democrat politicians like Hilldawg to come along and take all of the credit.
biden is worse: he voted against gay marriage and advocated against gays in federal service for almost 50 years and then pretended that he did none of that and gave token support when he needed the votes.
I have to guess they had a pre-existing condition or were self employed or something under bush, and don’t consider “you could get fired or go into huge medical debt at any moment” a concern (they should)
Yeah it’s a concern but my company saying “ insurance is going to make us drop some of you if you can’t pass a physical “ was really a meeting we had. So the possibility was way higher for sure.
The things is, Dems could have given us a single payer system but they specifically chose not to. They could have completely removed the risk of losing healthcare for everyone but they chose not to.
Gay people getting married was pushed through by an unelected body that is appointed, and if the civility libs are to be believed, apolitical (lmao)
The majority of people in the US don’t have healthcare or are undercovered or are spending a huge portion of their income on it. The US has the worst healthcare system in the developed world, brought to you by the wonders of voooooting.
Voting he also brought us such wonderful things as endless wars and constant genocide. Very cool! Glad you can turn your brain off and ignore your elected representatives doing those things in your name but I cannot
I was about to lose my healthcare at work during Bush but it hasn’t been a concern since.
so what, you think things are good now?
If I want health insurance it’s going to be like 1/5th of my fucking pay. I would qualify for subsidies under the ACA, but guess what? my workplace offering insurance means I don’t qualify. Even though I have to fucking pay for that insurance
No. I’m doing decent. I’m pretty good at saving money so I have a pretty decent sized emergency fund. Plus the company I subcontract to would hire me if the OG company gets taken out somehow. Which it’s not.
Gay people can get married because queer people agitated for that right for decades, and they finally got influential enough that they could not be ignored. It had nothing to do with who was in power. It wasn’t because they voooted. The people who were in power were against gay marriage until the conditions demanded that they weren’t.
Had the people in power not pivoted then agitation would have escalated until someone else got into power and pivoted.
no one voted on approving gay marriage; it became legal because of decision from the the supreme court that invalidated doma.
the closes thing that makes your statement true is the respect for marriage act; which came 8 years after doma was invalidated and whose only real power is to give anti-gay bigots legal protections, since the supreme court already decided against anti-gay marriage laws.
My statement is that gay marriage, like all civil rights, was not won by voting, but because of agitation from a large group of people. The fact that it got instuted thru the supreme court furthers this argument, it does not lessen it.
As a 40 year old voter I can say things have changed. Gay people can get married. They couldn’t when I was younger. I was about to lose my healthcare at work during Bush but it hasn’t been a concern since.
Nobody voted on that shit, it was a supreme court ruling, also losing healthcare is not a concern? What fuckin healthcare?
Also activists spent decades making huge sacrifices fighting for LGBTQ rights only for homophobic Democrat politicians like Hilldawg to come along and take all of the credit.
clinton falls into that category.
biden is worse: he voted against gay marriage and advocated against gays in federal service for almost 50 years and then pretended that he did none of that and gave token support when he needed the votes.
I have to guess they had a pre-existing condition or were self employed or something under bush, and don’t consider “you could get fired or go into huge medical debt at any moment” a concern (they should)
Yeah it’s a concern but my company saying “ insurance is going to make us drop some of you if you can’t pass a physical “ was really a meeting we had. So the possibility was way higher for sure.
The things is, Dems could have given us a single payer system but they specifically chose not to. They could have completely removed the risk of losing healthcare for everyone but they chose not to.
i wish people could see that democrats always rely on the “bad guy” excuse each time to kill a mildly progressive bill:
Gay people getting married was pushed through by an unelected body that is appointed, and if the civility libs are to be believed, apolitical (lmao)
The majority of people in the US don’t have healthcare or are undercovered or are spending a huge portion of their income on it. The US has the worst healthcare system in the developed world, brought to you by the wonders of voooooting.
Voting he also brought us such wonderful things as endless wars and constant genocide. Very cool! Glad you can turn your brain off and ignore your elected representatives doing those things in your name but I cannot
so what, you think things are good now?
If I want health insurance it’s going to be like 1/5th of my fucking pay. I would qualify for subsidies under the ACA, but guess what? my workplace offering insurance means I don’t qualify. Even though I have to fucking pay for that insurance
real good system we VOTED for, love me some VOTE
You don’t have healthcare, you buy into a ponzi scheme disguised as healthcare.
Thanks to Obama my affordable healthcare only costs me $1800 a month since I am unemployed.
I used to think the ACA was pretty good until I started needing to use my ACA health insurance.
Now I want to burn down every insurance corporation and I fucking hate Obama.
You’re one paycheck away from being featured on a Mr. Beast contest.
No. I’m doing decent. I’m pretty good at saving money so I have a pretty decent sized emergency fund. Plus the company I subcontract to would hire me if the OG company gets taken out somehow. Which it’s not.
You misunderstand, the size of your emergency fund does not change your class position
Gay people can get married because queer people agitated for that right for decades, and they finally got influential enough that they could not be ignored. It had nothing to do with who was in power. It wasn’t because they voooted. The people who were in power were against gay marriage until the conditions demanded that they weren’t.
Had the people in power not pivoted then agitation would have escalated until someone else got into power and pivoted.
no one voted on approving gay marriage; it became legal because of decision from the the supreme court that invalidated doma.
the closes thing that makes your statement true is the respect for marriage act; which came 8 years after doma was invalidated and whose only real power is to give anti-gay bigots legal protections, since the supreme court already decided against anti-gay marriage laws.
My statement is that gay marriage, like all civil rights, was not won by voting, but because of agitation from a large group of people. The fact that it got instuted thru the supreme court furthers this argument, it does not lessen it.
Why are there so many lemmy dorkfucks in here? wtf…