• dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    this is honestly truly incredible clickbait and I respect the hustle

    who doesn’t instantly want to know more about such an inscrutable quote?! why was she talking about either subject (Kurt Cobain or GPS) at all, let alone together??

    whoever decided to post that quote really knocked it out of the park with this one

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    What I love about GPS is that it’s so pervasive that maps have basically vanished overnight. And in 1000 years there will be no physical evidence of it.

    The only thing future archaeologists would be able to tell is that one day, we stopped making maps, and suddenly we started listening to the stars.

  • this_dude_eating_beans [any]@hexbear.net
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    sad that the god king Genghis Khan isn’t alive today to experience the miracles of a bidet. I think he really would have enjoyed a nice, clean asshole as he was conquering and pillaging villges

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    Alright this just struck me as so jesse-wtf on so many levels. Like, not just the randomness of GPS being the specific thing that is the singular modern miracle, not just that new-fangled technology existing that people who are now dead didn’t get to experience is the reason why it’s sad they’re dead, but even why it is noteworthy that Helen Mirren has these thoughts, and why was she saying this of Kurt Cobain of all people?

    I figured there had to be more context, and there is, but nowhere near enough to adequately answer my questions. Apparently though, this isn’t a one-off. She is known for talking about Kurt Cobain and how modern technology relates to his death. what-the-hell

    Of course, the comment came amid a broader point she was making about aging. “If you’re lucky, you get to be older,” she continued. “And then there you are. Oh my God, I’m 79! I never thought I’d be 79. And then you say, OK, well this is it. This is what 79 is. And it’s kind of OK. It’s not brilliant, but it was not that brilliant to be 25 either.”

    Mirren has referenced Cobain numerous times in the past when discussing the nature of aging. In 2014, she told Oprah Winfrey, “Look at Kurt Cobain — he hardly even saw a computer! The digital stuff that’s going on is so exciting. I’m just so curious about what happens next.”

    A year later, she told Cosmopolitan, “I was thinking about Kurt Cobain the other day and he died without knowing the internet, and I’m totally blown away by that.” And, in 2016, she said to the Daily Mail, “If I’d died at 27, the age that Kurt Cobain [of rock band Nirvana] died in 1994, I’d never have even known there was an internet! Incredible things are happening all the time and I can’t wait to see what comes next.”

    I suppose it’s mildly (very mildly) interesting to know that some celebrity I have a vague notion of (Mirren) is an unlikely fan of another celebrity who I was once a huge fan of. And I guess everyone has their own unique ways of contemplating their mortality. huh

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        I agree that GPS has had a significant even profound effect on us as a global society and as individuals, I just think that it’s far from the only technology that has. But fair enough on it being one of the better examples.

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          I completely agree. I don’t think there’s any one single technology that can really get that spot, but if you for some reason were going to give it out, I’d say it’s a decent candidate. People’s usual go tos are thing like penicillin or vaccines and I just wanted to broaden the horizon and yap about an interest

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    Celebrities are not smart. There are exceptions, but most are simply paid to master the hallmarks of actual intelligence, without the requirement of the base substance.

    Children should be taught about parasocial relationships as a mandatory element of school- at the elementary, middle, and high school levels.

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    Compiling a list of things Kurt Cobain died before they got invented.

    Bet he would have hated the sixaxis controller

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    “isn’t it a little bit anachronistic, judging him by 2022 standards, 2022 values?”
    excerpts from “Kurt Cobain will have revenge on the straights [cw: discussion of dysphoria, transphobia, homophobia, eating disorders, and suicide]“

    https://hexbear.net/post/920492

    You know what he said to Melody Maker in 1991? “I knew I was different. I thought that I might be gay or something because I couldn’t identify with any of the guys at all.” That’s what he said.

    Kurt Cobain wore a lot of dresses. Like, a lot, both onstage and off. On MTV in 1991, he said “It’s ‘Headbanger’s Ball’ so I thought I’d wear a gown.” He said in a 1993 interview, “I personally like to wear dresses. I wear them around the house sometimes.” This is not some shameful secret he kept hidden from the world. He was open about this. He was proud about this.

    Listen to his lyrics. “Should have been a son”. “I’m a lady, can you save me?” “Everyone is gay.” The original lyrics to “All Apologies” from his journals – “Boys write songs for girls. Let me grow some breasts.”

    “Courtney had a bag of lingerie with her for some reason and Kurt ended up modeling the contents.” And then they went to Kurt’s hotel room and they fucked.

    The whole album. In Utero. The collage on the back cover, the one Cobain described as “Sex and woman and In Utero and vaginas and birth and death". The occult symbols surrounding it, taken from Barbara G. Walker’s The Woman’s Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects. There was something inside Kurt Cobain, something inside waiting to be born

    When cis people interpret things, their conclusion is never “they were trans”. Never.

    Ed Wood wasn’t a trans woman. He was just a transvestite. He was a man.

    Pete Burns from Dead or Alive wasn’t a trans woman. Sure, he got all sorts of feminizing surgeries, but he never said he was a woman. Man.

    Prince Nelson adopted a female persona, feminized his voice, and recorded a song about wanting to be a woman’s girlfriend, but he was also a Christian and believed that being queer was wicked and sinful, and that’s the identity of his we need to respect. Man.

    Richard Wright, who wrote the Phish song “Halley’s Comet”, spent most of the 1980s telling everyone he knew he was a transsexual lesbian named Nancy, but after being consistently treated like shit changed his mind about that, so none of that counts for anything. Man.

    Dave Carter was on HRT when he died, but he was just questioning. He didn’t tell anybody for sure that he was a woman. Man.

    Quentin Crisp said just before he died that if he was younger, he absolutely would have transitioned, but wanting to transition isn’t the same as actually transitioning. Man.

    All men. Always, always men, whatever they do, whatever they say.

    And nothing can make him a girl. Because he’s dead.

    If I was to go out there and say that Kurt Cobain was a cisgender man, would anybody say I was wrong? Would anybody object or complain? Even though my saying that is an anachronism, is meaningless. The word, the concept, it literally didn’t exist when Cobain died.

    Kurt Cobain wrote, thought, talked, died like eggs do. I don’t care if he never said the magic fucking words.

    To be queer is to be erased, to experience erasure. I still hear straight men arguing, as if they have any right to argue, as if they know, that Emily Dickinson was not a lesbian. Emily Dickinson! I’m supposed to listen to people who say this shit? I’m supposed to take them seriously when they say well, actually, calling Dickinson a “lesbian” is historically anachronistic, we can’t apply the standards of the present to the past, and Jesus fuck have you read her letters? She liked girls. She really liked girls. Kurt Cobain was a trans woman. Kurt Cobain was every bit as much a trans woman as Emily Dickinson was a lesbian. Refusing to say it isn’t “respect”. It’s perpetuating the crime perpetrated against Cobain