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    Hot fuzz. Because the first watch is enjoyable, but every subsequent rewatch makes you appreciate Edgar Wright more and more. He is just the most incredibly meticulous story teller with the most dense movies.

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    Memento.

    Though, being real, I would say that it’s a movie that gets more interesting on second watch rather than being one out need to watch twice to get. I honestly haven’t ever run across a movie like that.

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    I like primer, but I’m not sure I really understand it even with all the charts and diagrams that are out there

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      I honestly don’t think Primer is meant to be understood. I think I read somewhere that their goal was not to make a cohesive storyline, but rather something that was open to interpretation.

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        I saw a full explanation video on YouTube a couple years ago. The story makes total sense, but it’s buried in several Layers of recursion, which takes a while to resolve

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      My wife and I spent a few days really digging into Primer, and I feel like we understand like… 85% of it, which is pretty good imo. Love that movie.

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      Yeah, I watch that about once a year. It’s, I think, the only time travel story that actually follows it’s own rules. Have you seen Upstream Color? Same guy, really interesting story. It can lead into Blade Runner 2049 elements about consciousness and memory.

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      One of the few movies I have rewatched.

      The plot is both intricate and simple, it is very well done.

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      This movie gets a lot of love among a certain crowd I feel. I watched, but I feel the diagram and timeline exploration takes so much effort and energy it’s not really a story any more. It’s just mental masturbation (kinda like tenet).

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    Okay this isnt a movie but a show, but arrested development (especially the early seasons) are filled with situations, puns, innuendos and jokes that are set up over several episodes, sometimes even seasons. It is impossible to catch and appreciate them all on first watch. I have seen the show probably a half dozen times over the years and i still stumble over the occasional thing i missed.

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        There are even some jokes where they were seeding foreshadowing, but were never able to actually have it come to fruition because the show was cancelled. My favorite of these is that Tobias is actually a black man

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            I don’t think so. It’s more like he’ll often say stuff that makes more sense if he were a black man. Eg. When Lindsay is hitting on Ice, Tobias says something like “she certainty has a type”. Or how the cover of “The Man Inside Me” seems to show a black man. Much like the foreshadowing of Buster’s hand, a lot of it is meant to be extremely subtle.

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      Arrested development was way ahead of it’s time and has some of the most clever writing of any show, especially for the time is was first made (pre Netflix.) The word play and subtle running gags are absolutely hilarious. And the characters are all written hilariously well.

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        Not OP, but to me it’s one where getting to the ending gives you the context/lense to reinterpret the earlier portions. Sorta like memento or fight club, where the ending recontextualizes the earlier scenes.

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      I had to pause that movie several times on my first watching. Not because it was bad or anything, it was amazing, but because there was so much stuff going on at once. It’s now one of my fave movies to recommend to people

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        One of my favorite things i caught in a second watch was a simple thing, but i really liked the little touch they did to drive home the different realities they jumped thru. Did you notice the music playing in the car when theyre talking? Its a country version of “absolutely” -madding crowd. It also explains why short round ends up quoting the lyrics when he tries to explain how weird reality has become. It’s not just a funny call out, it fits.

        I really liked that little touch. There are many like that, and the film is well worth rewatching to catch them

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    Donnie Darko. Besides being confusing, it’s just a great story. Plus, it’s remarkably well cast.

    If you have the opportunity to watch the deleted scenes, I highly recommend it - especially the one with the dad. His role in the cinematic version is pretty small, but there’s a deleted scene where he has a quiet chat with Donnie, and tells Donnie about his past mental problems. It’s fantastic, and rounds out his character perfectly.

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        Did you watch the theatrical or directors cut? The latter explains a LOT more.

        TL;DW If I remember it all correctly. The plane crash caused a “Final Destination”-esque rift in spacetime? Or fate? Or reality? And Donnie should have died, but didn’t and because he didn’t the universe will implode unless he fixes it in time by dying. He also gains powers to see the future as part of the deal (represented by the weird trails in front of people walking) and he realizes the future is everything ending unless he dies to seal up the rift. Frank, the bunny is like a guide or messenger or something.

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          Y’know I don’t mind the “spoiler” because the realistic likelihood of watching this one feels kinda slim…

          … But this sounds like a far better version of The Butterfly Effect, which was one of the most pointlessly edgy, pathetically nihilistic, manipulatively depressing films I’ve had the displeasure of seeing.

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            I saw that in theaters and it was one of the maybe two movies I’ve walked out of. It was so pointlessly depressing and just not enjoyable to us so we bailed.

            Donnie is much better. Depressing? Yeah in a way, but also much more engaging and enjoyable.

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              I’m so happy for you, that you managed to only see part of it and cut and run lol. We saw it on DVD and the folks were so convinced it was a thriller that was gonna pay off in the end (like it was marketed, frankly)…ooof.

              It doesn’t get better, and you can probably infer from my comment what the main character’s “revelation to fix things” was. (Apparently there were other endings)

              If film is a communication medium, this one is more a cry for help than anything else. (I felt the same about a certain mega-popular decade-long anime that just concluded with similar empty-nihilistic ideas, but that’s another topic lol.)

              Who knows, I see Donnie making a lot of lists, so I just might, when I feel I can handle it. :)

              Gloomy cinema aside, I hope you’re having a great week. :) hahaha

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          I don’t remember honestly. I remember having to read about the movie too kinda almost understand it.

          Thanks for the explanation, now I probably have to watch it again :)

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      Is that in the director’s cut? I tend to recommend the theatrical cut. I don’t find it confusing but I can understand how it might be possible to get lost if you miss a key scene or two.

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        Don’t know. It deserves to be.

        I used to have a DVD of the theatrical cut, which I got before I even knew a director’s cut existed.

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        I like how this movie’s fanbase is split on a group of people recommending the theatrical cut and another group recommending the Director’s Cut. I haven’t found another movie that has something similar.

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          It’s been a long time since I saw the director’s cut. Having read the comment above about what the director’s cut includes I’m more inclined to continue recommending the theatrical cut. The magic of that story and it’s characters doesn’t need more exposition, especially about the fantastical elements. It’s enough to know that Donnie figure’s stuff out and takes decisive action with the knowledge he and by extension the audience has at hand.

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      One of my favourites for sure. I just love the struggle the character has for what is and what isn’t reality in that movie.

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    The Big Lebowski. I’ve never seen another movie gain so much value over time and rewatches

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      SPOILER ALERT-- do not read further if you haven’t seen the movie.


      When my husband is being a jerk, I tell him I want the other brother back, the one who loves me.

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        By the way, you can use spoiler tags on Lemmy!

        ::: spoiler This is a spoiler
        Now the movie is ruined!
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        This is a spoiler

        Now the movie is ruined!

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          I don’t think she really could know. She is definitely suspicious but it’s such a hard conclusion to jump to without any reason to think it.

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            Yeah i agree. It fascinates me though. So many of her statements could be read more than one way after knowing the trick.

            I dunno if it even matters to the story, but all the makeup in the world wouldnt hide your husband’s identity from you, right? Not someone you knew for years. And she’s the only one who saw his hand fresh after the ‘surgery’. I like to wonder about what exactly she suspected, and what she meant when she said she couldn’t live this way.

            I look for clues every time. Still not sure (or if you’re supposed to know) which person loved her or if either of them know who the OG was.

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              Having had a partner who gaslit and had basically a personality disorder, I could absolutely see someone getting driven to do what she did. You start to doubt your own ability to distinguish reality, to be able to trust yourself or anyone else. Constant fear and anxiety will make anyone go a little nuts

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            I think if I was in her shoes there’s no way I’d figure it out unless it was super obvious. It’s way too unreal and it contradicts occam’s razor.

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      A few weeks ago, I finally saw this for the first time, knowing virtually nothing about the plot. WOW. I’m looking forward to watching it again!

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    Snatch.

    There’s like 15 main characters. Every scene is important but it is impossible for it all to be apparent on a first watch.

    It’s really brilliant storytelling. Watching Lock To k & Two Smoking barrels, you realize that guy Ritchie might be a one trick pony. But that’s okay, it’s a great trick.

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    The Big Lebowski. You pick up on stuff with each watch, and it just gets funnier when you do.

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      Perfect example. Almost all of the dude’s lines are things he heard a scene or two before.

      There’s so many things foreshadowed in the movie that you’d only catch the second or third time around.

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    The Sixth Sense, if you can go into it blind. I’m usually pretty good at figuring out a movie’s plot twist, but this one caught me completely by surprise. Then when you watch it again you pick up on all the dropped hints.

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      I was fortunate enough to see this one in theaters. Had no clues. Great reveal. It would really ruin it to know the twist going in.

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        I had it spoiled for me about 30 min before I went to the theater to see it by a coworker. I never forgave him.

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          That sucks. It’s still a good movie, but that was before everyone expected a twist out of m night shyamalan

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      I have never watched it and probably never will- I’m sure it’s a great movie but the twist is one of the most spoiled in internet history :(

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        To be fair, it is a twenty-five-year-old movie. That’s a long time to keep anything unspoiled.

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          It was spoiled at the time. I think I was six months late in seeing it and knew the twist. Not 100%, but enough that it completely ruined it.

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      I recognized the twist at a certain conversation early in the movie. It’s not really hidden, or at least not well.

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      I figured out the twist within like the first 5 minutes of my first watch (nobody spoiled it for me, but I knew that there would be a twist and was looking for one) and it made the movie pretty boring imo

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    Mulholland Drive. I get… angry at myself when i don’t understand a film that i know has a hidden meaning i can’t grasp so i watched it 4 times until i finally understood it. Now i am complete