Something that totally shocked you learning it or realizing it. I might be using the wrong wording here, but ill give you my example:
In Ocarina of Time, we all know the Triforce was cut, or otherwise not something you get in the game, save for in the cutscenes towards the end. BUT - did you know you can actually go find it and see it in the game?
If you have a Gameshark, turn on the levitation code. Go go Zeldas Cortyard in the room where she is, and fly over the wall. When you fall, you’ll land in a pool of invisible water, and underneath the center of the room with the flowers, look down - there it is. Can’t interact with it, but you can see it, and i choose to believe putting it in that exact spot was intentional for lore reasons.
What do you got?
If you’ve completed enough endings of Nier Replicant/Gestalt you’ll already know the twist at the end of Nier Automata, but less known is that the triggering event of Nier’s plot, White Chlorination Syndrome, is introduced by ending E of Drakengard, where the Japanese Air Force shoot down a dragon that just killed a god in a dance off.
This means that the reason you can find the Drakengard weapons in the Nier games is because Caim was carrying all 65 different swords, axes, maces, hammers, spears, staves, and polearms on his person when he was blown to fucking bits by an air to air missile, scattering them across Tokyo.
If I wanted to play Drakenguard, do I need to start with the first one, or can i jump in anywhere?
What was “the war” in Pokemon? Lt Surge fought in it, and apparently Pokemon did too, but there hasn’t been any prequel game that explores it.
But here’s an interesting reading: so in early Pokemon content guns were a thing, but later on it was decided that guns don’t exist in the Pokeverse. This could be explained in-universe - perhaps guns were a common sight at one time, but they’ve faded out as the Pokeverse’s society has gotten more utopian. This can also be seen in the schemes of the Pokeverse’s organized crime - Giovanni and Team Rocket were up to some bad stuff, racketeering, gambling, poaching, but as you go forward in time the worst crimes committed by society’s anti-social element are tagging and petty larceny.
Could it be that “the war” was the final war, and Lt Surge was a member of the People’s Army that finally defeated the bourgeoisie, allowing for the creation of utopian post-capitalist societies where lotteries are held just for fun, kids can go on cross-country trips unsupervised, and the only vestige of currency is play money paid out just for participating in society and used to buy non-essential things because all of the necessities of life are distributed for free?
It’s not impossible!
The whole plot line about the Templars from Assassin’s Creed inventing capitalism
In final fantasy 15, Bahamut has Noctis’s face. The first king of Lucis, Ardyn’s brother Somnus, also looks the same. You can never see Bahamut’s full face in-game because his mask covers everything except his eyes, but the novel mentions his appearance explicitly and makes the connection textual. They clearly have a father/son/holy spirit thing going on between them where Ardyn is Satan. Well not clearly, but it’s there.
Really, the full plot of FFXV could be described as deep lore because it’s scattered between the games, DLCs, movie, book, and OVA. Here’s some more important details that the main game glosses over:
spoilers, obviously
- Gladiolus’s dad dies alongside Noctis’s dad in chapter 1
- Ravus’s arm got melted off from trying to use the magic ring in the chapter 1 siege too
- the arranged marriage between Noctis and Lunafreya was planned by Ardyn and forced through threat of invasion
- Prompto is a clone of the evil Niflheim scientist guy and so is every generic soldier you fight
Maybe not favourite but the most recent i encountered and in surprising place: Path of Exile 2 which belongs to a genre not famous for even having much lore in the first place:
When you fight Doryani in act 3 he call you “Demon of Atzoatl”, despite protagonist of PoE 2 is not the same person as the protagonist of PoE 1 who travelled in time and ruthlessly pillaged the Temple of Atzoatl and by doing so possibly significantly influenced the fall of Vaal civilization and destruction of entire continent. But Doryani never met the MC of PoE1 and he possibly makes mistake because you too travel in time and do absolute mayhem at key time and place of the Vaal. What’s best: Doryani, while genius and one of the most impactful people in game world history, is a complete psycho and one of the worst mass murderers in history of Wraeclast but he figuratively* shit his pants on the mere thought of “Demon of Atzoatl” so it’s a nice detail too that finally some boss is scared of you.
*Figuratively because he don’t wear pants
PoE lore is absolutely great!
There’s also further funny bits. PoE1 mentions Doryani many times but never mentions what happened to him. It’s because he gets recruited by Alva to help MC in PoE2 (and gets demoted from chief thaumaturge of Vaal to free item identify bot). Fun fact is that Alva probably try to bluff him about the time travel and history, but she accidently hits the same theory as Ketzuli, Architect of Time and advisor to Doryani so Doryani believes that quite easily, especially that the Vaal cataclysm happens minutes later so it’s fait accompli anyways. And even better is that this theory is observably false since the atlas in PoE2 suppose to be Wraeclast after the cataclysm, but it has no sense at all with random placement and mix of everything. Doryani even notice that (though its too late) and comment that the reality itself is disrupted by the sheer power of the cataclysm, and warns MC that anything can happen, even meeting with another Doryani (which ofc happens, no way GGG is gonna waste a good boss on just campaign). Thing is, this makes the theories about determinism of history nonsense. And ultimately we know that of the Vaal traditions the only thing that gets preserved is their knowledge about thaumaturgy which only leads to even more tragedies as the recieving Azmeri later found the Eternal Empire which while less bloody than Vaal still abuse the thaumaturgy and fucks up the world again.
In Warhammer 40k, vehicles such as the Land Raider or the Land Speeder are not named that because they’re land vehicles. No, they’re named that because they were invented by Arkhan Land, the techpriest who designed them.
And the Emperor’s real name is Jimmy Space.
Not even invented but he allegedly found the plans. Inventing things is a tech heresy, so while less dogmatic tech priests do invent things sometimes they always use this excuse so maybe Land did it too. Except Belisarius Cawl, he don’t give a fuck but even he have to frequently engage in extreme theological discussions (extreme because they often ends in shooting) to justify himself.
Also all that is apparently not entirely canon, despite being so entrenched it is in every bit of relevant lore, because Mechanicus Codex said it’s not that bad, inventing things is deemed acceptable in at least one major forge world, Ryza.
Oh well i guess that is some deep lore lol.
Eyyy that’s like Thomas Crapper who invented the modern toilet. Or was instrumental in it’s invention anyway.
My favorite is probably anything from TES. Explaining CHIM or mantling or even breaking down this diagram
The whole idea of the Dragon Break/Warp in the West is one of my favorite pieces of game nonsense ever. Yes, all 7 endings of Daggerfall are simultaneously canon, because Akatosh got really drunk and so 7 different people all simultaneously obtained control of an artificial god and proceeded to do god things with it. Time just didn’t exist for a while, don’t worry about it.
Also it created a new god out of the super powerful emperor from a few centuries ago (except now he’s retroactively always been a god), don’t think about it.
My favourite is how one of the Sermons of Vivec is about Pokemon.
The Tribes games are actually in the same continuity as the earthsiege/starsiege/cyberstorm mech pilot series.
Every TES game has you smash, vanish, or otherwise mess up one of the key structures of reality in the world as the goal of the game. None of them can be truly destroyed but at this point things gotta be looking bad.
The indie game called Heaven’s Vault has your characters foster mother as a primary antagonist and a religious fanatic but the Ng+ implies she might be right about everything.
Pretty much all the archaeology of Elden ring and the fact that even the earliest civilisation visible might not have been the first.
A big part of the Elden Ring lore is there are aliens and I feel like people don’t make a big enough deal about that
The TES stuff is my jam. As much as I don’t really care for Bethesda now, I appreciate that even up through Skyrim, a lot of the wilder lore tidbits are acknowledged and hinted at, just never put at the forefront. The Empire having asteroid colonies and spaceships, Dwemer steam trains, genocidal time traveling cyborgs in Oblivion, etc.
Love the sub canon about what the eye of Magnus actually is. It’s so, so dumb I can’t help but like it.
In Fallen London/Sunless Sea the Bazaar is actually a sentient space crab that collects love stories to present them to the Sun to convince it to love her.
Oh, man, I need to go back and play more of sunless sea. I always gave up after the first failure or two as a captain.
In Super Mario 64 if you go to the courtyard and jiggle the joystick around really fast for 30 mins Mario will eventually go “Oooh Mama Mia time to cook a da pasta!” And he will cook you an entire delicious pasta dish he will then turn to the screen holding the dish and say “You want-a dis?” And a menus asking you to select yes or no will appear.
If you select yes he will say “Okaaaaaay~ you-a asked for it!” and he will take a big dump in the dish and throw it at the screen laughing maniacly saying “You still want-a da pasta, nerd?”.
If you select no he will loudly cry “MAAAAAMAAAAAAAA” until you switch off the console/emulator.
This is 100% real my dad who works at Nintendo told me it was Miyamotorolas dying wish to include it.
brb trying this out
Omg its true
hatoful boyfriend is a dating game that first seems like a joke since all the dateable characters (and characters besides yourself) are sentient birds. its all good fun, but if you keep getting into the lore it gets so weird (in the best way). your main character is a human going to a school for sentient birds, but theres a secret lore reason as to why, rather than just a simple joke
big spoilers
the reason the birds are sentient is because a bird flu wiped out most humans, but the countervirus developed by humans to stop the spread of the disease also made all birds develop human level intelligience. theres a massive bird-human war which the birds win because humans still end up dying of bird flu. birds now keep humans away and segregated and living in the wild. about ~100 years later your character is a human from the wild invited to go to the normally bird-only school
SimpsonsHatoful Boyfriend predicts reality once again!Oh shit really? That’s crazy, I remember playing a little bit of that years ago
Seems reasonable, humans are stinky
Fan theory that is sorta supported: Star Fox is a furry retelling of a real war that happened in the F-Zero universe. James McCloud is a human F-Zero racer.and the weird DS star fox game has an ending where fox totally fucks up his life and he gets it back together when he and Falco join the f-zero grand prix. The Arwing and F-Zero machines are both powered by a G-Diffusor System. The F Zero world not being full of anthropomorphic animals leads me to believe Star Fox is a sanitized telling like Disney’s Robin Hood is Robin hood was a real historical guy or weird furry ww2 fanfics
I buy it
There’s a few animal-people in F Zero, no?
Bio Rex is a raptor but I think he was made by science. I think the rest are just aliens who kinda look like animals
Lmao I was just on the FZERO wiki after reading your comment and having learnt a bit of Japanese since last playing all that time ago, I noticed that Gomar & Shio ( ごま + 塩 sesame and salt) are both Furikake (rice topping) aliens.
The F Zero X character descriptions are some of the greatest paragraphs ever written. Most of my gaming time is currently spent trying to get really fucking good at the game and high level play of X in counterintuitive and weird, it’s neat but I’ve always been a grip car normal driver, I gotta learn my low grip Tokyo drifts
Yeh I love the descriptions and the goofy little videos you unlock for each character in X. You can tell that the character designers enjoyed thinking up these outlandish (otherworldly) backstories that play out like wrestling drama but with actual in-game-world intrigue and consequence. My hands are itchy lol I wanna play gimme the sticks
Edit: i got my versions wrong, I meant gx. I didn’t play much of x until it was on the virtual console
Everyone is so fucking weird and they give just enough information that it really only raises more questions but you know whatever is going on is cool as hell. VAHOOOM!
There’s an easter egg in Gunstar Heroes if you survive against Timeron for 100 minutes in the spaceship level. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpyW0-Oi50g
That game was really fun, I liked it a lot!
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Growing up there was lore of being able to play as Master Hand in SSBM. I thought that shit was made up for the longest time because no one I knew figured out how to unlock him despite all the theories, but no it is actually possible with an input glitch. Blew my mind
Wait, seriously? I remember hearing that rumor, too, and eventually also dismissing it. Now I’ll have to go find videos.
